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Can't send internal e-mail - 29.Mar.2006 3:24:14 AM
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gundagai
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This small school has one domain and one Exchange 2000 installation on the domain controller. We have installed Exchange 2003 on a second server and plan to migrate users to it following the method outlined in Migrating Exchange 2000 to Exchange 2003 Using New Hardware by David Fosbenner on this site.
The installation appeared to go well, and we created a new user on the new server (TEST). TEST can send and receive e-mail to external addresses, and can also receive e-mail from users on the existing server. Anytime TEST sends e-mail to an internal address, however, it gets stuck in the outbound queue to the other server and delay notifications start to stack up.
Any ideas on what I should be checking before I pull out what little remains of my hair?
< Message edited by gundagai -- 30.Mar.2006 2:09:55 AM >
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RE: Can't send internal e-mail - 29.Mar.2006 4:53:02 PM
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do you have any smtp relay specified on the smtp virtual server?
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RE: Can't send internal e-mail - 29.Mar.2006 5:56:03 PM
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gundagai
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Which one? Both the original (2000) server and the new (2003) server have the Default SMTP Virtual Server set with the default relay permissions - i.e. only those on the list (nobody), and all successfully-authenticated computers can relay.
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RE: Can't send internal e-mail - 29.Mar.2006 7:10:08 PM
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how any smart hosts? Anything listed on any of the servers?
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RE: Can't send internal e-mail - 29.Mar.2006 8:14:28 PM
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gundagai
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No smart hosts configured on either server.
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RE: Can't send internal e-mail - 29.Mar.2006 8:27:05 PM
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de.blackman
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can TEST send mail to himself? you may want to recalculate the routing on that server by stopping SMTP, restarting Exchange routing engine and then started SMTP up again.
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RE: Can't send internal e-mail - 29.Mar.2006 8:47:27 PM
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gundagai
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Yes, TEST can send to himself successfully (and another test user on the same server). I just cycled the smtp virtual server and the routing engine service but the problem's still there. Thanks for your help so far!
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RE: Can't send internal e-mail - 29.Mar.2006 8:50:17 PM
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can any user on the new server send mail to another user on the first server? Can you telnet from the new server to the old one on port 25?
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RE: Can't send internal e-mail - 29.Mar.2006 10:56:38 PM
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gundagai
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can any user on the new server send mail to another user on the first server?
No. Both users on the new server are unable to send any mail to any user on the old server.
Can you telnet from the new server to the old one on port 25?
Yes: 250s all the way, and able to send a test message from a new server client address to an old server client address with no problem.
I was logged in from telnet on the new server to the FQDN of the old server, by the way, not mail.<old server>.com, which it couldn't resolve. Does that matter right now?
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RE: Can't send internal e-mail - 29.Mar.2006 11:46:00 PM
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de.blackman
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ok since you can actually "spoof" send a message from a telnet command then SMTP is definitely running fine. Check the configuration of the virtual server and if you have an SMTP connector check the settings too.
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RE: Can't send internal e-mail - 30.Mar.2006 12:20:52 AM
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gundagai
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Must be nearly time for you to go home - thanks for your continuing suggestions. Here on the left coast I have some more frustration time left!
There is no connector. I'm at a loss which settings to check on the virtual server (they are just the defaults), but will tweak things in an orderly fashion until something gives!
Do you advise a re-install or a nuclear zap and new install, or should I be patient?
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RE: Can't send internal e-mail - 30.Mar.2006 1:41:48 AM
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Hi,
Which Warning / Error event Ids you can see in application log of Exchange server? Also try deleting email from queue with option "Delete with NDR" & then post NDR error code here. Then something can be done.
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RE: Can't send internal e-mail - 30.Mar.2006 2:08:32 AM
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gundagai
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There wasn't anything special in the event logs.
LATE-BREAKING NEWS!!
I just suddenly had an idea which has thrown light on the problem. The whole enchilada works just fine with my Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition 10 turned off, so that's obviously what's been blocking the mail. Now that I know this, I can research what is going on, because the two ought to be able to co-exist peacefully.
I turned it off before doing the install, but switched it back on afterwards, as recommended in the article quoted in the first post.
Special thanks to de.blackman for the time he spent. I must say that Exchange is probably the most complicated piece of software I've ever handled!
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