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Do my Exchange 2007 required Third party Certificate - 27.Aug.2008 3:30:35 AM   
umer_javed

 

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Dear All,

Let me first explain the Scenario which i think will help you to understand what help actually I need

We are running MS Exchange server 2007 on MS Windows server 2008 client end operating system is MS Vista business with MS Office 2007 loaded on all the machines for e-mail the users who are moving alot around the country or around the world i've confiugred POP3 account for them to receive the e-mails and for rest of all i configured exchange account in their outlook and if they need to access the e-mail out side they can use OWA. now the issue i am facing is with the users who are using pop3 account when ever we update our address book i have to manually update their address book in their outlook on the other hand the users who are running exchange account get the updates automaticly from the server so i decided to configure the exchange account to all the users instead of POP3.

And now the question which is confusing me is that do i need to install the third party CA certificate to access the exchange account remotly although i've gone through microsoft articals but i am still confused i've consulted with one of my friend who is also using exchange 2007 stated that we need to open some ports on the firewall for exchange account no need for certificate........? now what should i suppose to do ... and what is right or what is wrong.

even though microsoft says when we install the exchange 2007 it installs the certificate by itself.......... If there is already a certificate then why we need another third party certificate.

I AM CONFUSE....
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RE: Do my Exchange 2007 required Third party Certificate - 27.Aug.2008 8:20:18 AM   
pjhutch

 

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There are two situations when you need a certificate:
1. Access to the change password feature in OWA
2. To secure email communication between clients PCs and the server

The difference between an internally generated certificate from your own Certificate Authority (CA) server and a thirty party one is that the third party certificate will always be 'trusted', your own CA will NOT be trusted by default as client machines will not know or who controls your CA. So, untrusted certificates will always be challenged when you browse to a site with your own certificate. A trusted CA will not be challenged.


_____________________________

Peter Hutchison MCP
Exchange Administrator
University of Huddersfield

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RE: Do my Exchange 2007 required Third party Certificate - 31.Aug.2008 4:48:44 AM   
umer_javed

 

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Thanks alot Peter you made my life easy.

I have one more question. As I am asked to make a e-mail (xyz@company.com)  account and any e-mail which comes to this account must be forwareded to few other accounts for this i've created a universal security group (ABCdef@company.com)  and users who suppose to receive e-mail from xyz are the member ABcdef and in the mail delivery option of xyz@company.com i've added this security group now when any exchange user sends e-mail to this account reaches to all other e-mail accounts along with the master e-mail account but if I try to send any e-mail from yahoo msn or any other e-mail accounts it give me this error


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Delivery has failed to these recipients or distribution lists:

ABCdef@company.com
Your message wasn't delivered because of security policies. Microsoft Exchange will not try to redeliver this message for you. Please provide the following diagnostic text to your system administrator.

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RE: Do my Exchange 2007 required Third party Certificate - 31.Aug.2008 7:05:56 AM   
pjhutch

 

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The problem with distribution lists with accounts from different domains is that it one external user emailing the list will not be able to email other users as you will be effectively using Exchange as a 'relay' and hence the error. You would be better off using an external service eg Google groups, for that kind of mailing list.

_____________________________

Peter Hutchison MCP
Exchange Administrator
University of Huddersfield

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RE: Do my Exchange 2007 required Third party Certificate - 31.Aug.2008 8:28:17 AM   
umer_javed

 

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So is there any way we can make it work....?

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