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ESEUTIL /D doesn't shrink store much now... - 20.Sep.2004 4:42:00 PM

brian_christie

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Hi all.
My Exchange 2K db is getting close to its limit. (I'm at 16.01GB) I had the mailbox manager process delete a bunch of mail and it sent me a report stating it deleted 55MB. The event that was logged said 5506.4MB (5.5GB) So I ran the ESEUTIL /D (again) and I'm not getting the databases to shrink much. I looked at the 1221 event this AM for the on-line defrag results and it said only 3MB free.

Could something be wrong with my database or is it just too full?

Thanks in advance!

Brian Christie

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RE: ESEUTIL /D doesn't shrink store much now... - 20.Sep.2004 7:25:00 PM

Henrik Walther

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If Event 1221 says 3MB then it sounds like your EDB databases simply is full, you might want to consider upgrading to the Enterprise edition then.

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RE: ESEUTIL /D doesn't shrink store much now... - 20.Sep.2004 10:59:00 PM

Zelandakh

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You might want to check in ESM and find which mailboxes are the biggest and either drop some emails to PST locally or with exmerge.

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RE: ESEUTIL /D doesn't shrink store much now... - 20.Sep.2004 11:19:00 PM

brian_christie

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Thanks for the info.
That's what I've been doing as well as having Mailbox Manager delete all mail older than 30 days from [Sent Items]. It said it freed 1.5GB.
I ran the defrag and didn't get any of it back!

Any other ideas that may work?

When I look at db size, I need to add the .edb & .stm files to get total size, correct?

Thanks a bunch!

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RE: ESEUTIL /D doesn't shrink store much now... - 21.Sep.2004 2:06:00 AM

brian_christie

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OK. I had to call MS on this. I had to change the retention time to 0 days, make the on-line defrag run FIRST and then run the eseutil /d (off-line defrag).

Seems you must do it in that order.

BC

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RE: ESEUTIL /D doesn't shrink store much now... - 4.Oct.2004 8:35:00 PM

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Brian,

As we are running into a similar issue, how did you force the online defrag to run? Or did you just wait until after it ran @ 2 in the morning?

--Bill

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RE: ESEUTIL /D doesn't shrink store much now... - 4.Oct.2004 10:37:00 PM

brian_christie

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Bill,
You need to change the schedule to run earlier, give it about a 2hr span to run in and wait for it to complete. (look in the event log for the completion notice)

Hope this helps!

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RE: ESEUTIL /D doesn't shrink store much now... - 7.Oct.2004 4:53:00 PM

aaxuser

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Brian,

I can't seem to get the online defrag to run correctly. I tried setting it for 9:15am this morning and nothing happened. I am trying again to run it @ 10 and giving it until 2:00pm to run. Was that what I was doing wrong? Do I have to give it a span of time to run in?

Also, if I have just about (as in 2-3 gigs over) the size of the db as space on the drive, will the offline still run correctly?

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RE: ESEUTIL /D doesn't shrink store much now... - 7.Oct.2004 5:03:00 PM

brian_christie

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Yes. It need a lot of time to run, especially if the system is being used.

I will only free up space in the already allocated db space...no extra disc space is needed unless you do the off-line defrag...then you need 110% of your db space free to run that.

Filter your event log for first this event ID 700. This is the start (should say something like:

"Information Store (2768) Online defragmentation is beginning a full pass on database 'D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb'."

Then later, filter for event ID 701. This is it being completed:

Information Store (2768) Online defragmentation has completed a full pass on database 'D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb'.

Then filter for event ID 1221. This is the status:

The database "First Storage Group\Mailbox Store (your server name here)" has 17 megabytes of free space after online defragmentation has terminated.

Mine used to take a few hours to run when the dbs were full. Now it takes 50 minutes.

Good luck and Post your results!

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