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ESEUTIL driving me crazy - 18.Aug.2008 4:17:40 PM   
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Hello everyone, I am having difficulty using eseutil.exe to compact my Exchange 2003 database.   When the command D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\BIN>eseutil.exe /d is issued I confirmed the program is running by looking at the running processes.  The problem is priv1.edb is never touched.  A new database is not created nor does the time/date stamp change on the original file. The original database is located on E:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\MDBDATA>priv1.edb The new database will be created on X:\TEMP>priv1.edb The full command is D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\BIN>eseutil.exe /d E:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\MDBDATA>priv1.edb /tX:\TEMP>priv1.edb Does anyone know what might be happening? Many thanks in advance.
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RE: ESEUTIL driving me crazy - 19.Aug.2008 8:51:10 PM   
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First, confirm your command line.
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The full command is D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\BIN>eseutil.exe /d E:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\MDBDATA>priv1.edb /tX:\TEMP>priv1.edb
The ">" characters in the line should be backslashes.

Second, how much free disk space do you have on your E: and X: drives?  Somewhere you need at least 125% of the size of the store you are defragging.

Third, how much disk space do you anticipate recovering?  Look in the Application Log for the most recent 1221 Events.

Fourth, are you aware that most of the time offline defrags are not recommended?
 
 

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RE: ESEUTIL driving me crazy - 20.Aug.2008 1:28:10 PM   
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Hiya chap - firstly Dean is correct defragging your Exchange databases offline is something that should really only be done under a very specific set of circumstances - I did a article here on it that you might find useful http://telnetport25.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/when-to-use-eseutils-to-defrag-your-databases-or-when-not-to/

Failing that and you are really adamant that you wish to defrag the database you could use ESEGUI which a freeware tool that I developed for Exchange to take the complexity of the command line away - the instructions to which are here: http://telnetport25.wordpress.com/2007/08/04/gui-interface-for-eseutils/ and the Exchange 2003 version of the tool is here: http://domain564941.sites.fasthosts.com/software/ESEUTIL-GUI.exe

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RE: ESEUTIL driving me crazy - 20.Aug.2008 5:08:56 PM   
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Hello Mr. Uemura and Mr. Grogan, Thank you for sharing your knowledge.  I have been working with Exchange 2003 SP2 for the last 7 months so this is all new to me.  Unfortunately the environment I took over did not come with a knowledge transfer so the last 7 months has been a learning experience;) I have confirmed the following:   1. The priv1.edb database size is 35 GBs2. The priv1.stm file is 12 GBs3. The previous admin edited the registry for a maximum of 50 GBs.4. I am working with Exchange Standard not Enterprise.5. During the last 3 months I installed Exchange Archiver (3rd party tool for offloading old mail).6. The most recent 1221 was 8/20 "1870 megabytes of free space after online defragmentation has terminated".7. Drive E: does have enough space......107 GB free space (after I purged a bunch of junk). 
With the 50 GB approaching (.edb + .stm = 47) my goal is to reduce the database size before maxing out.  The priv1.edb keeps growing....is there a better way of reducing the database size other than using eseutil?
 
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RE: ESEUTIL driving me crazy - 20.Aug.2008 5:24:01 PM   
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Hiya chap, thanks for the additional information - if it helps, it is always hard taking over another Exchange admins server even if you have had years worth of experience is very hard - therefore I wish you good luck and you are not doing so bad.

Ok the previous admin has locked the database size at 50GB - but there is scope to move that to 75GB if needed. From the Event 1221 reading that you have given by running ESEUTIL in /D you will shrink the database by 1.8GB - but you need to know that the database will then begin to grow physically after that (the 1870 worth of space will be reused internally within the Database until new disk space is needed).

As the maximum database size would be 75 GB (after a registry change) and you have 107 GB free i would advise that you do not need to defrag the database.

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RE: ESEUTIL driving me crazy - 20.Aug.2008 10:47:56 PM   
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I agree with Andy's assessment.  Also, 1.8GB out of 35GB only comes to about 5% - not worth the trouble of an offline defrag.  In fact, that may be just about an ideal amount of whitespace.  Removing all the whitespace actually hurts performance because there is a lot of additional disk processing that goes on whenever you have to expand the physical database files. 

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