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HELP lol Running out of space - 22.Feb.2006 6:18:58 PM   
billk89

 

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I have 2 exchange servers , one has 2 gig free the other 50 gig.

Will moving mailboxes over the other server free up space :: this on exchange 2000

using ad exchange task to move the mail boxes , I allready moved a cuple over but it the disk seems to be filling up faster.


Any one ever do it this way

Thanks
Bill
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RE: HELP lol Running out of space - 22.Feb.2006 6:27:46 PM   
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Hi Bill,

Moving users will not relieve your space issues directly.  Information stores unfortunately never shirnk on their own.  They require an offline defrag to be performed using ESEUTIL.  Offline in this case means your exchange servcies must be shut down to run the defrag.


NOTE:  You need space to run an offline defrag, either local or network map....but regardless ESEUTIL will need to make a copy of your current database to run the defrag.


Some documentation (plenty of it found on google):


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=%2Fservicedesks%2Fwebcasts%2Fen%2Fwc060402%2Fwct060402.asp

http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Exchange-ISINTEG-ESEUTIL.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;186291

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RE: HELP lol Running out of space - 22.Feb.2006 6:33:23 PM   
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Thanks for the fast reply , do you know of any other tricks to free up some space.

Thanks again
Bill

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RE: HELP lol Running out of space - 22.Feb.2006 6:42:28 PM   
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Also i have about 1000 log files  there 2 that are about 5 meg each

I belive some are neede to talk with the edb files.

Is there a way to delete some of these files.

Bill


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RE: HELP lol Running out of space - 22.Feb.2006 6:44:14 PM   
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Hmm....well if you  have other data stored on the drive with your databases...such as:

transaction logs:    perform a backup to "trucate/remove logs"   (probably already doing this)
other data:  try and remove/move this to other locations.

Don't:  compress the databases (Sorry, just wanted to say that :)
Don't:  manually delete any of the transaction logs  (that could/would be bad)

The only way to shrink information stores is to do the offline defrag.  It's very invasive to the business I know, but it's something you can "schedule" and better than having your disk fill up sometime around 1am and you learning about it first thing in the morning  :)

Also, there are some basic time estimates of running a defrag out on the internet.  I believe 8Gb per hour is a very general estimate..but with fast drives/CPU etc. your defrag can go much faster.  Be sure to backup your database prior to and after your defrag.


Good luck.

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RE: HELP lol Running out of space - 22.Feb.2006 6:46:39 PM   
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A-ha.  These files get removed after a succesful backup.  Do not manually delete them.

Perform a backup and your transaction logs will go from 1000 to ~6 log files.

If you don't have a 3rd party backup solution, you can use the Native Windows 2003 Backup to do an "Exchange" backup.  You just need space to perform the backup to.....gulp.

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RE: HELP lol Running out of space - 22.Feb.2006 7:02:26 PM   
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i see it now

the fist of the logs start on feb 10

Check veritas backup and sure enogh last full backup was the 10 :( ::: I need more people lol

Running a full to night will flush

Thanks
again
Bill

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RE: HELP lol Running out of space - 27.Feb.2006 10:58:58 PM   
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A quick way to free up disk space w/out having to shutdown Exchange services is to move all users off of the mailbox store, to another mailbox store, then delete the old database, mount a blank database, then move the users back.  This is assuming that you have the free space available.

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RE: HELP lol Running out of space - 28.Feb.2006 9:30:34 PM   
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I would not endorse that solution.  Here's why:

1) Quick in this case is relative based on the number of users and size of the mailboxes.

2) Your transaction logs will grow as you move users off of the mailbox store.  So, yes your DB will shrink, but your logs will grow substantially due to the double mailbox moves.

Cheers.

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RE: HELP lol Running out of space - 6.Mar.2006 3:56:35 PM   
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Hello:

I am having similar issue:

I am running out of space on both

1. Database store
2. Transaction log share

I tried to do a full backup using Legato Networker 7.2 and i did not see any changes in the transaction log share.
I read in forums,that after doing a FULL backup of the exchange server, the transaction logs would reduce significantly.

Please somebody explain if is there anything i am missing. Here.

Thanks

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RE: HELP lol Running out of space - 29.Mar.2006 6:46:01 PM   
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Hello,

This was being considered for our move to Exchange 2003. Is there any other reasons besides the ones listed that this would be a bad idea?

Our DB is 40GB, we are currently using Ex2000 Enterprise and we would be moving to EX2003. We have a little over 100 mailboxes.

Thanks!

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RE: HELP lol Running out of space - 21.Apr.2006 8:28:24 PM   
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Bill,
On the server that has 2 GB free. What is the total space for a drive where the database is sitting and how big is the edb file?


Max

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