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HOtmail and some other domains - 30.Aug.2004 6:19:00 AM
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uju sivas
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I have ISA 2004 and Exchange with AD at back.
Mail from in and out works perfect. Most of the doamins - no problems.
But, users cannot send mail to hotmail. There is no such rule or anything to block this.
When people send mail from hotmail, mail does comes in - no problem. Only the internal users cannot send to hotmail. The message keeps staying to Queue and just users get undeliverables message.
There are some other domains - which is also showing this pattern....
Is there anything I'm missing here or it could be the virus....or e-mail address hi-jack.....
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RE: HOtmail and some other domains - 30.Aug.2004 6:27:00 PM
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Henrik Walther
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Could you post the NDR message that's returned?
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RE: HOtmail and some other domains - 30.Aug.2004 8:08:00 PM
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uju sivas
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This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.
THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.
Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed.
abc@hotmail.com
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RE: HOtmail and some other domains - 30.Aug.2004 8:09:00 PM
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uju sivas
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May be I turned off NDR because of too many <>.....
Do you also know how to stop entering too many <> into system
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RE: HOtmail and some other domains - 30.Aug.2004 8:10:00 PM
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uju sivas
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shouldn't it be nice to have
ndr for outsiders
and
ndr for insiders ?
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RE: HOtmail and some other domains - 30.Aug.2004 9:11:00 PM
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Henrik Walther
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Disabling NDR's can have it's benefits, but makes troubleshooting issues like the one you experience so much harder.
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RE: HOtmail and some other domains - 30.Aug.2004 9:57:00 PM
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uju sivas
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Yes, that is true.
don't you think that external ndr and internal ndr could have done some kind of better jobs...
tell me what to do next ?
If I enable NDR, millions of messages needs to be sent for NDR....those dammn <> messages.....
Does, MS or you have any solutions for this....
Even when I last spoke with MS, even they suggested to turn off NDR....
But, Exchange 2000 nor Exchange 2003 has that internal ndr and external ndr things, it is hard
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RE: HOtmail and some other domains - 31.Aug.2004 5:10:00 PM
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uju sivas
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Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
Subject: test
Sent: 8/28/2004 3:38 PM
The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
test@hotmail.com on 8/30/2004 3:48 PM
Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified. Please retry or contact your administrator.
<mars.abc.com #4.4.7>
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RE: HOtmail and some other domains - 7.Sep.2004 5:11:00 PM
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Danofre
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I have the same problem for AOL, Hotmail, and Yahoo. I cannot send to them.
DNS is correct etc. I think it may be pix firewall issue.
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RE: HOtmail and some other domains - 6.Oct.2004 5:56:00 AM
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uju sivas
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Not only these now, the problem has started with some other domains as well....
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RE: HOtmail and some other domains - 6.Oct.2004 8:12:00 PM
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Christo
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We just 'upgraded' from Wingate to ISA and are experiencing similar problems (this is one of many)...about 5 domains that we regularly send to now time out in the queue...since we didn't have this issue prior to ISA I am presuming it is ISA...or at least how ISA is communicating with Exchange.
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RE: HOtmail and some other domains - 11.Oct.2004 12:49:00 AM
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Guest
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2 thoughts...
1) turn of EDNS. the enhanced dns service has a packet size aol and hotmail reject and therefore the server can't resolve the MX records
2) you're on a Dynamic DNS or other means to be blacklisted from these mail servers. check to see if you're blacklisted on mail abuse sites.
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RE: HOtmail and some other domains - 5.Nov.2004 12:54:00 AM
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JuppyD
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I have had the same problem. It was resolved by contacting the ISP, having them fix the RDNS. AOL, Earthlink, Yahoo, Hotmail etc. all worked after that.
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