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New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 8.Dec.2005 10:21:02 PM

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I have been with this company for a while now and have taken over a 5.5 exchange server that reallys seems to have been improperly setup from the get go. I have pursuaded them to order exchange 2000 and now what I would like to do is setup a whole new server and do a clean install of 2000 exchange on it and just move the mailboxes and db's over. I have done something similar a while back when 2000 was the new thing out there and it was quite and involved procedure.

Now my domain is 2000 but it only has one AD - I would like to make this new exchange server a backup AD but I know this all can be tricky to do or at least it was a few years back. So I would like some advice as to how to do this the best/safest way. If anyone can be of assistance it would be greatly appreciated and if any further information is needed just let me know.

Mike

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 15.Dec.2005 1:19:12 PM

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When you say one AD - do you mean one domain or a domain with one Domain Controller (DC)?
Yes, its possible to install Exchange on another domain controller although its not recommended, a member server would be preferred.
To make a another DC, just run DCPromo.
If migrating Ex 5.5 then you need an Active Directory Connector installed to migrate settings etc from the old Exchange 5.5 organisation to the new server.
Then you can install Exchange.

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 15.Dec.2005 5:31:42 PM

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Yes that is what I meant - I have one domain that has only one DC - I would like to make the new mail server a backup DC if you would. I would like to then just import all the mailboxes and contacts (the db stuff) over to the new mail server and then do away with the 5.5 server and switch everyone to the new mail server. Its this process that I have heard is a real bear and the domain that I inherited is a Single Label Domain as well. Thanx for you input and if you have links to any FAQ's for doing this it would be greatly appreciated.

Mike

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 15.Dec.2005 5:37:32 PM

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Here's some useful links:

http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Exchange-55-Directory-Migration-Exchange-2003.html (applies to 2K as well)
http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Exchange_2003_Upgrade_Checklist.html (same for 2K)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;555262
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;259912
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;327928

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 22.Dec.2005 5:21:43 PM

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One of the problems with the current installation of Exchange 5.5 is that the Administrator module does not work. It will not find the
Exchange server and I have researched and tried several things in the past to no avail. One of the many reasons I want to do a fresh
install.

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 23.Dec.2005 11:53:22 AM

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For the Exchange Admin to work, the program needs to be running with:

a) PC Joined to the Domain
b) WINS, DNS correctly configured.
c) Server/Workstation working and RPC available
d) Need at least Account Operator and Exchange Admin priviledges.

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 29.Jan.2006 9:17:17 PM

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Ok I am now working on trying to implement this. I have checked the things you stated but still can not open the Exchange 5.5 Administrator. I get the following error when I try: DS_E_COMMUNICATIONS_PROBLEM and it also does not seem to have an ADC installed. My plan is to do a "move mailbox" setup where I have new hardware that I am going to install Exchange Server 2000 on but from what I can see I will still need to access the 5.5 Administrator to set it up for the mailbox move unless there is a way around that. What I want to do is this clean install of Exchange 2000 on new hardware and move all the mailboxes over to the 2000 Exchange box in my all 2000 server domain. Any help would be greatly appreciated so I can move forward with this. Thanx...

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 30.Jan.2006 10:13:34 AM

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DS_E_COMMUNICATION_ERROR means that it cannot connect to the Directory Services (DS) on Exchange 5.5.
The lack of a properly configured ADC would be the most likely error, you need to get that up and configured before doing anything else with all the Connectors setup.

For Exchange 5.5 admin to work, you need 'Client for Microsoft Networks' installed, TCPIP, PC joined to the same domain where Exchange is installed. You also need Exchange Admin rights to access Exchange configuration as well (you can set these at Organisation, Site and Configuration levels).

See http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Exchange_2003_Upgrade_Checklist.html (Applies to 2000 as well)
http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Exchange-55-Directory-Migration-Exchange-2003.html
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555262/en-us
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/259912/en-us
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/312632/en-us

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 30.Jan.2006 5:47:08 PM

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I am using the Administrator on the server where Exchange 5.5 is installed. I have installed the ADC that I found listed when I searched for it on MS site regarding Exchange 5.5 but that in itself did not resolve the issue. Everything else seems to be correct but I will let you know that this domain was configured as a Single Label domain when the person set it up. I took over a mess if you would and have been straightening out problems ever since. I can ping the IP and the Netbios name just fine. Yesterday I started setting up the new server and ran dcpromo and made it a secondary DC in the existing domain. I have a single site, single domain all at one location so that should simplify things somewhat. It wont even let me browse for the Exchange server via the Administrator's module. I have found a similar error in online research but its pertaining to a hotfix for a particular problem that does not match mine other than the error. Thanx so much for all your help...

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 30.Jan.2006 5:56:01 PM

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Also a quick question regarding my current Exchange 5.5 server - does that server need to have Active Directory installed on it? Because it doesnt...

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 30.Jan.2006 6:19:17 PM

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No, all the server needs is to be 'joined' to a domain thats all so it can access domain accounts.

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 30.Jan.2006 6:26:46 PM

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Ok - its joined so now I just need to figure out why that Administrator has never worked.

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 30.Jan.2006 11:24:56 PM

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I just tried configuring the ADC and got the following message:

Unable to contact the exchange server, please ensure that your connections are configured correctly.

Im using the same account for the AD server and Exchange. The account belongs to all the needed groups and the
only other thing is I changed how it updates as set by default to "From windows to exchange".

When I click ok to save it - it gives the above error.

Also now my error when trying to connect via the 5.5 Administrator is DS_E_COMMUNICATIONS_PROBLEM (instead of ERROR).

Also when trying to install Exchange 2000 I get the following error:

The component "Microsoft Exchange Messaging and Collaboration Services" can not be assigned the action "Install" because.

- Active Directory has not replicated all the necessary permissions for the deleted items container. Please wait for replication to complete before running setup.

I got this Sunday several times and I manually replicated from AD Sites and Services. I dont know if that single label domain stuff is causing this. Could there be something I am missing in my DNS?

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 31.Jan.2006 5:39:36 PM

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I am running DNS on the Exchange server and because AD is not installed its configured for Standard Primary for the type. It does not have all the records that are in the primary DNS server. I have made sure that my main DC and itself is in there though. Im thinking that the problem must be there somewhere but not sure what to look for exactly.

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 31.Jan.2006 6:17:13 PM

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For Exchange to work you need all the DCs and ALL the Exchange servers to have MX and A (Host) records in DNS.

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 31.Jan.2006 6:32:13 PM

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Here is my dcdiag output for my domain:

Domain Controller Diagnosis
Performing initial setup:
Done gathering initial info.
Doing initial required tests

Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\CRCAD
    Starting test: Connectivity
          *** Warning: could not confirm the identity of this server in
             the directory versus the names returned by DNS servers.
             If there are problems accessing this directory server then
             you may need to check that this server is correctly registered
             with DNS
       ......................... CRCAD passed test Connectivity

Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\MAILSERVER
    Starting test: Connectivity
       ......................... MAILSERVER passed test Connectivity
Doing primary tests

Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\CRCAD
    Starting test: Replications
       ......................... CRCAD passed test Replications
    Starting test: NCSecDesc
       ......................... CRCAD passed test NCSecDesc
    Starting test: NetLogons
       ......................... CRCAD passed test NetLogons
    Starting test: Advertising
       ......................... CRCAD passed test Advertising
    Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders
       ......................... CRCAD passed test KnowsOfRoleHolders
    Starting test: RidManager
       ......................... CRCAD passed test RidManager
    Starting test: MachineAccount
       ......................... CRCAD passed test MachineAccount
    Starting test: Services
       ......................... CRCAD passed test Services
    Starting test: ObjectsReplicated
       ......................... CRCAD passed test ObjectsReplicated
    Starting test: frssysvol
       There are errors after the SYSVOL has been shared.
       The SYSVOL can prevent the AD from starting.
       ......................... CRCAD passed test frssysvol
    Starting test: kccevent
       An Warning Event occured. EventID: 0x80000443
          Time Generated: 01/31/2006   11:42:48
          (Event String could not be retrieved)
       ......................... CRCAD failed test kccevent
    Starting test: systemlog
       ......................... CRCAD passed test systemlog

Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\MAILSERVER
    Starting test: Replications
       ......................... MAILSERVER passed test Replications
    Starting test: NCSecDesc
       ......................... MAILSERVER passed test NCSecDesc
    Starting test: NetLogons
       ......................... MAILSERVER passed test NetLogons
    Starting test: Advertising
       ......................... MAILSERVER passed test Advertising
    Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders
       ......................... MAILSERVER passed test KnowsOfRoleHolders
    Starting test: RidManager
       ......................... MAILSERVER passed test RidManager
    Starting test: MachineAccount
       ......................... MAILSERVER passed test MachineAccount
    Starting test: Services
       ......................... MAILSERVER passed test Services
    Starting test: ObjectsReplicated
       ......................... MAILSERVER passed test ObjectsReplicated
    Starting test: frssysvol
       ......................... MAILSERVER passed test frssysvol
    Starting test: kccevent
       ......................... MAILSERVER passed test kccevent
    Starting test: systemlog
       An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x0000165B
          Time Generated: 01/31/2006   11:29:29
          (Event String could not be retrieved)
       An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x0000169E
          Time Generated: 01/31/2006   11:33:45
          (Event String could not be retrieved)
       ......................... MAILSERVER failed test systemlog

Running enterprise tests on : crc
    Starting test: Intersite
       ......................... crc passed test Intersite
    Starting test: FsmoCheck
       ......................... crc passed test FsmoCheck

Here is the Netdiag for my DC

.........................................
   Computer Name: CRCAD
   DNS Host Name: crcad.crc
   System info : Windows 2000 Server (Build 2195)
   Processor : x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 1, GenuineIntel
   List of installed hotfixes :
       KB820888
       KB822343
       KB822831
       KB823182
       KB823559
       KB824105
       KB824151
       KB825119
       KB826232
       KB828035
       KB828741
       KB828749
       KB832353
       KB832359
       KB835732
       KB837001
       KB839645
       KB840987
       KB841356
       KB841533
       KB841872
       KB841873
       KB842526
       KB842773
       KB870763
       KB871250
       KB873333
       KB873339
       KB883939-IE6SP1-20050428.125228
       KB885250
       KB885834
       KB885835
       KB885836
       KB888113
       KB890046
       KB890859
       KB891781
       KB893066
       KB893086
       KB893756
       KB893803v2
       KB894320
       KB896358
       KB896422
       KB896423
       KB896424
       KB896688-IE6SP1-20051004.130236
       KB896727-IE6SP1-20050719.165959
       KB897715-OE6SP1-20050503.210336
       KB899587
       KB899588
       KB899589
       KB899591
       KB900725
       KB901017
       KB901214
       KB902400
       KB904706
       KB905414
       KB905495-IE6SP1-20050805.184113
       KB905749
       KB905915-IE6SP1-20051122.175908
       KB908519
       KB908523
       KB912919
       Q147222
       Q828026
       Update Rollup 1

Netcard queries test . . . . . . . : Passed

Per interface results:
   Adapter : Local Area Connection
       Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
       Host Name. . . . . . . . . : crcad
       IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.11
       Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
       Default Gateway. . . . . . : 192.168.254.1
       Primary WINS Server. . . . : 192.168.254.11
       Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.11
                                    192.168.254.10

       AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed
       Default gateway test . . . : Passed
       NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
       WINS service test. . . . . : Passed

Global results:

Domain membership test . . . . . . : Passed

NetBT transports test. . . . . . . : Passed
   List of NetBt transports currently configured:
       NetBT_Tcpip_{458088CB-9BBC-416D-81D7-A40CA48CC745}
   1 NetBt transport currently configured.

Autonet address test . . . . . . . : Passed

IP loopback ping test. . . . . . . : Passed

Default gateway test . . . . . . . : Passed

NetBT name test. . . . . . . . . . : Passed

Winsock test . . . . . . . . . . . : Passed

DNS test . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Failed
   [WARNING] The DNS entries for this DC are not registered correctly on DNS server '192.168.254.11'. Please wait for 30 minutes for DNS server replication.
   [WARNING] The DNS entries for this DC are not registered correctly on DNS server '192.168.254.10'. Please wait for 30 minutes for DNS server replication.
   [FATAL] No DNS servers have the DNS records for this DC registered.

Redir and Browser test . . . . . . : Passed
   List of NetBt transports currently bound to the Redir
       NetBT_Tcpip_{458088CB-9BBC-416D-81D7-A40CA48CC745}
   The redir is bound to 1 NetBt transport.
   List of NetBt transports currently bound to the browser
       NetBT_Tcpip_{458088CB-9BBC-416D-81D7-A40CA48CC745}
   The browser is bound to 1 NetBt transport.

DC discovery test. . . . . . . . . : Passed

DC list test . . . . . . . . . . . : Passed

Trust relationship test. . . . . . : Skipped

Kerberos test. . . . . . . . . . . : Passed

LDAP test. . . . . . . . . . . . . : Passed

Bindings test. . . . . . . . . . . : Passed

WAN configuration test . . . . . . : Skipped
   No active remote access connections.

Modem diagnostics test . . . . . . : Passed
IP Security test . . . . . . . . . : Passed
   IPSec policy service is active, but no policy is assigned.

The command completed successfully

I am half tempted to just start this network over from scratch... Anyway any help would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 1.Feb.2006 10:10:42 AM

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On the DNS server, is Dynamic updates enabled for automatic Host entries?
On the DNS, is there a Host record, a _msdcs folder with CNAME and SRV records for the DC?
On the DC, in tCPIP properties make sure its own IP address is in the DNS list.
Also, make sure in Advanced, DNS tab, that 'Register this connection's address in the DNS' is enabled.

See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/824449/en-us
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291382/en-us

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 2.Feb.2006 6:23:22 PM

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Yes - I have checked all these things prior. I upgraded the old DC to a new box and transfered all schema and everything to the new server. Everything seemed to have worked and there were no evident problems. The old server was decommissioned and then I noticed for the first time that this was a single label domain when I tried adding a new computer to my network. I found the MS kb article instructing to minor additions to the registry to allow computers to commuincate with single label domains. I found an issue where the 32 digit number under the _msdcs folder in DNS was of the old server so I researched and used DCDIAG, NETDIAG and ADSIEDT to do a cleanup. I had many DNS errors and resolved it to what you see now and I have tried the manual registration of the DNS after stopping NETLOGON and clearing all DNS CACHE and then restarting NETLOGON. Somewhere there is like one thing wrong causing all this grief and I just am not sure where to look for it. Again thanx so much for all your advice and help.

Ok I went through the whole net stop/start and re-registration of dns and checked my event log and found the following (which is what I had been getting)

Event Type: Error
Event Source: NETLOGON
Event Category: None
Event ID: 5790
Date:  2/2/2006
Time:  2:23:18 PM
User:  N/A
Computer: CRCAD
Description:
The description for Event ID ( 5790 ) in Source ( NETLOGON ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. The following information is part of the event: MINOR-CONN, Access is denied. .
Data:
0000: 22 00 00 c0               "..�

Event Type: Error
Event Source: NETLOGON
Event Category: None
Event ID: 5723
Date:  2/2/2006
Time:  2:20:59 PM
User:  N/A
Computer: CRCAD
Description:
The session setup from the computer MINOR-CONN failed because there is no trust account in the security database for this computer. The name of the account referenced in the security database is MINOR-CONN$.
Data:
0000: 8b 01 00 c0               ?..�

Event Type: Error
Event Source: NETLOGON
Event Category: None
Event ID: 5774
Date:  2/2/2006
Time:  2:42:44 PM
User:  N/A
Computer: CRCAD
Description:
Registration of the DNS record 'dce7117a-9732-4a6c-ba1f-797e32ae3328._msdcs.crc. 600 IN CNAME crcad.crc.' failed with the following error:
DNS RR set that ought not exist, does exist.
Data:
0000: 2f 23 00 00               /#..

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 3.Feb.2006 10:05:54 AM

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Looks like the computer account in the domain is missing. You will need to remove the server from the domain and re-add it, this should also fix the DNS problem as well.

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RE: New 2000 exchange server from a 5.5 - 3.Feb.2006 5:12:05 PM