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Sanity checker for an Install on Exchange 2007 - 11.Nov.2008 5:04:33 PM
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teekblang
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Is there a tool where you can run on a typical Exchange Installation where it will test for proper permissions and proper operation. Kinda like BPA.
Second, Where is the link on - after you succesfully installed exchange 2007 from a domain that contains 2000, how do you activate it to to start accepting emails for new users?( We will change the convention on the email format but retain the old email as secondary email keeping the old emails on the same new mailbox on E2K7)
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RE: Sanity checker for an Install on Exchange 2007 - 11.Nov.2008 8:04:31 PM
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Sembee
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As long as you use a domain account, which should also be a Full Exchange admin in the Org on Exchange 2000, then permissions should not be an issue. I tend to use THE administrator account.
The installation wizard is a lot better than previous versions. If you have only been using Exchange 2000 then you are in for a shock.
I would suggest that you download one of the virtual machine products and knock up a quick virtual environment. Two machines will be fine - one as a DC, one as an Exchange server. Isolate it from production, or at least use different names for everything. Then run the setup from the CD or the SP1 download.
If you can't get a 64 bit install, then download the SP1 32 bit install. it is trial, but fully functioning.
As for your second question - you need to spend some more time reading on how the product works, because if you had your question would have been answered. When you have an Exchange 2000/2003 server already, the Exchange 2007 installation will put in a routing group connector to connect the two. What you do for delivery is down to you. Exchange 2007 is still SMTP based, so at the most basic level you simply change the firewall to point the port forwarding for port 25 to the new server. I usually do that when the server is passing on more traffic than it is holding for its local mailboxes.
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RE: Sanity checker for an Install on Exchange 2007 - 18.Nov.2008 12:32:38 PM
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teekblang
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I can send email out to local users and on the internet but cannot rcv email.
So I am now stuck with mail not coming to Exchange 2007 users (stayed on the queu on the SMTP gateway trying to send to 2000 EXCHANGE and my gmail account will finally said it tried so many times and indicate a loop ). How do you check for proper permissions and use ESM to check and make sure routing connectors are in place. When I right click the connector on ech2000 its telling me that I need an Exchange Manager Version 8.0.30535.0 or latest to edit.
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RE: Sanity checker for an Install on Exchange 2007 - 18.Nov.2008 1:41:51 PM
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teekblang
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I have posted this problem at MS technet forums under exchange two days ago but I have a feeling that they want the paid phone support to happen. They, MS knew this kind of problem (mail loop) and permissions on the rcv connector and did nothing to correct or create a script to undo the "yellow" question mark on Exchange2000 connector. Their ESM is complaining that I needed a newer version - hence USELESS. My next avenue would be is to ask Google or the opensource guys because I cannot do trial and error on a production environment. I only have the luxury to apply the changes duting off hours.
It is hard to simulate everything on the lab because of lack of money. The NEW mail software and the new hardware are being paid in monthly basis (lease).
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RE: Sanity checker for an Install on Exchange 2007 - 18.Nov.2008 7:50:23 PM
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Sembee
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You cannot manage the connector between the sites with Exchange 2003. You shouldn't even be trying to do so.
Ensure that you do not have any smart host on the SMTP virtual server, any restrictions or changes from the default, are not using external DNS on the SMTP virtual server and that the servers can telnet to each other on port 25 using IP address, NETBIOS name and their FQDN. Any of that fails then you have a problem.
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RE: Sanity checker for an Install on Exchange 2007 - 19.Nov.2008 1:43:34 PM
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teekblang
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Thanks for taking the time to respond.
When I ran EXBPA, I only have two yellow bang .
They are
Exchange IFS drive is enabled on the M: drive and Link State suppresion is not enabled.
Also, Telnet to port 25 from the command line on both directions were successful.
The ff text was from my original exc2000 server manager.
Exch Admin Group (FYDIBOHF23SPDLT)
Servers
EXCSRVR2007
Protocols
SMTP
Default SMTP Virtual Server (with question mark)
Current Sessions (overlap I/O in progress)
x.400
First Storage Group
Second Storage Group
Routing Groups
Exchange Routing Group (DWBGZMFD01QNBJR)
Connectors
DMZ-IIS-smtponwin2003 (can't remember creating this on this server
EXCSRVR2007-EXC2000SRVR
Members
ANovato
Servers
EXC2000SRVR
Protocols
SMTP
Default SMTP Virtual Server
X.400
System Policies
Routing Group
ANovato
Connectors
EXC2000SRVR-EXCSRVR2007
Members
Folders
Public Folders
Tools
Help please, I don't know what I am missing on my installation.
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RE: Sanity checker for an Install on Exchange 2007 - 19.Nov.2008 3:25:49 PM
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If you don't remember creating this...
DMZ-IIS-smtponwin2003 (can't remember creating this on this server
Then remove it.
Are you routing email through a server in a DMZ?
You need to look at your email routing path to see whether something is getting in the way. If the SMTP test works then it isn't something blocking the traffic.
Simon.
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RE: Sanity checker for an Install on Exchange 2007 - 19.Nov.2008 4:52:14 PM
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Thank you!
Yes. I do have smtp relay on the DMZ (IISSMTP/Win2003 with mailsecurity). The "Anovato" default SMTP Virtual server "Advanced Delivery" is pointed to this smarthost.(with a public IP and also running(hosting) our outside DNS server).
I now have a total of 3 DNS server.
I can telnet (and vice versa) on port 25 via name "server***.Mydomain.LOCAL.
and got a response.
Should I put a check mark on "Attempt direct delivery before sending to smart hot" on the advance SMTP setting?
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RE: Sanity checker for an Install on Exchange 2007 - 19.Nov.2008 5:36:19 PM
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teekblang
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"DMZ-IIS-smtponwin2003" is created probably on the installation Because it is the name of my send connector on the new Exchange 07 box.
I will review all my DNS setting because I am confused with the .local and .com on mydomain settings. All the examples I've seen are referring to contoso.com and not contoso.local
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RE: Sanity checker for an Install on Exchange 2007 - 19.Nov.2008 6:46:52 PM
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Sembee
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quote:
ORIGINAL: teekblang
Yes. I do have smtp relay on the DMZ (IISSMTP/Win2003 with mailsecurity). The "Anovato" default SMTP Virtual server "Advanced Delivery" is pointed to this smarthost.(with a public IP and also running(hosting) our outside DNS server).
This smart host? Where is it set? On an SMTP Connector or on the SMTP virtual server? If it is on the SMTP VS then it MUST be removed. You will need to create an SMTP Connector.
As you are in co-existence, remove the Send Connector from Exchange 2007 and create the SMTP connector on Exchange 2003 and set its scope to entire org. That will ensure email flows between the servers and from both servers to the machine in the DMZ. I wrote almost 24 hours ago about ensuring there is no smart host on the SMTP VS.
Simon.
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RE: Sanity checker for an Install on Exchange 2007 - 19.Nov.2008 7:29:17 PM
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teekblang
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On the Exchange 2007 server, I opened "organization configuration" -> "Hub Transport" and deleted the DMZ-IIS-smtponwin2003 "send connector" It now says There are no items to show this view.
And outgoing mail stopped on the new user in exchange2007 (luckily mail is still flowing on my old exchange)
Now back to 2000 exchange, There is no place I can create real SMTP SERVER. When I right click SMTP under protocol (on both) it only give me a choice of "new SMTP Virtual server.
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RE: Sanity checker for an Install on Exchange 2007 - 19.Nov.2008 7:42:05 PM
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Sembee
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You are misunderstanding me.
It is an SMTP Connector that you need to create. This will be in the routing groups under Connectors. You will already have a routing group connector.
You MUST remove the smart host from the SMTP virtual server.
Simon.
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RE: Sanity checker for an Install on Exchange 2007 - 19.Nov.2008 8:28:05 PM
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teekblang
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I have still the same problem when I deleted the automatically created connectors on "ANovato" and created a new SMTP connector (under "ANovato) since it is the only place I can delete and create SMTP connector, right below "Routing Groups"
So the problem is the new client on 2007 cannot rcv any email except from itself
BTW. You are right. I don't need the Send connector on exchange2007. I have deleted it and still the same
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RE: Sanity checker for an Install on Exchange 2007 - 19.Nov.2008 8:44:46 PM
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I would assume in this entire thread - your incoming emails are being sent to your legacy server and mail flow works fine (on your legacy box).
Questions
1) Can you send emails to your E2k7 box from E2k - do you see it stuck in the queues on E2k box or does it get through ?
2) Can you send emails to your E2k box from your E2k7 box ?
3) Have you created your RGC using bi-directional switch ?
4) Do you see a connector on both E2k7 and E2k box in your ESM ?
5) Can you telnet to E2k7 box and drop an email
I guess once we are clear with these questions, you would have solved your problem. If not please keep posting.
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RE: Sanity checker for an Install on Exchange 2007 - 19.Nov.2008 9:06:49 PM
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teekblang
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1 is the problem
2 yes (outlook 2002 as a client on 2007)
3. Did not do this (I thought install will take care of it)
4. yes (ESM on e2k but only the lower portion (Anovato) can be remove and edit.
5. I am sure I can telnet to port 25 and I "will" see If can drop a message.
I think I am getting close since I don't have any warning (error log on event viewer) on exchange server 2007. Just one being event id 2116 (Other domain is still 2000 bla)
Thanks again. This stuff is new and not easy.
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RE: Sanity checker for an Install on Exchange 2007 - 19.Nov.2008 10:02:35 PM
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teekblang
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Thanks to both of you for helping me on this. I will definitely follow all your advise and post back the result.
Can you elaborate on 4. Since I cannot use ESM on ech2000 on other connector except on "ANovato"(existing) Routing Group connector" So I assume it is safe to delete the existing virtual smtp and create a new one.
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