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Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 6.Jun.2006 8:08:00 PM
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tjlunsford
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Is there a method to view headers and the SCL with OWA's Inbox and Junk Mail when the only Email Client is OWA (no Outlook)?
An up front "Thank You" for your time and reply, ... TJ
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RE: Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 6.Jun.2006 8:14:03 PM
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tjlunsford
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Additional Note:
I use the IMF Filter Manager (IMF Archive Manager) to view the messages archived within the UceArchive folder. It is this information that I would like to be able to view/extract from the messages arriving into the inbox and junk mail folders.
Thanks again for your time and reply, ... TJ
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RE: Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 6.Jun.2006 9:21:55 PM
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tjlunsford
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leederbyshire,
I changed the original "util_view.js" to "util_view.js.original" and allowed this to remain and then copied in your "util_view.js". I did nothing at the Exchange Server other than what I've mentioned. I then logged off from an OWA session and logged back in. After right clicking I now have at the bottom, an option to view the header as well as an option to view the SCL.
I will use this and report back later how it's working.
If you would like for me to tweak and/or modify anything to assist you with the verification, please let me know.
Many "Thanks" for your assistance,
... TJ
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RE: Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 6.Jun.2006 11:21:33 PM
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tjlunsford
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leederbyshire,
Update on the "util_view.js" I have monitored 50 email's in the time frame since swapping the original .js for your .js and the function is working great, although...
... The SCL is either a "0" or a "4" with no inbetweens. The Exchange IMF is set to archive at "6" and Junk Mail at "4" allowing each message to come into the inbox, which it has done and has been verified with your SCL view option.
The original reason behind wanting to view the SCL was to become familiar with the rating in reference to the actual messages. In doing so I expected to see many ratings from 1 through 9 (or 0-10). Therefore I've found it odd to see a SCL rating of either a "0" or a "4" for many of the messages without a variable in-between. Could this still be a tweak in your .js? Maybe an IMF concern? Or.... it could just be, that all the messages are in-fact, a "0" or a "4"... ?
I thought that you would want to know as well as, hoping that another might share too, the point system philosophy within the SCL.
Thanks again folks, ... TJ
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RE: Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 6.Jun.2006 11:36:56 PM
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leederbyshire
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If you are set to archive at 6, then you won't see anything over 5 in the mailbox. Messages in your Junk Mail could be 4 or 5 . I don't archive any messages at all, so I see a wider range in the Junk Email folder, although my Inbox messages all seem to be zero.
I think I'm getting the correct field (it is documented in a few places), but like I say, no one else has tried this mod yet. There are some utilities out there that will show the IMF value, so I guess a second opinion could only be a good idea.
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RE: Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 8.Jun.2006 2:14:35 AM
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tjlunsford
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leederbyshire,
This is a 24-hour update, since implementing the "util_view.js" mentioned in the aforementioned post.
According to the Exchange IMF, I started with a 7 and 5 before the ".js" change. I was a bit concerned that to many Spam messages were being passed through to the Email client and even into the "inbox." After using the new ".js" I was then able to view the SCL of those that made it into the "inbox" and "junk mail," which has helped tremendously.
After 24 hour I've allowed mail to build without any modification. What I'm seeing is that based on the new .js's SCL view, they are not matching the definition of the IMF. According to the IMF, the filter will take action when a message is above or equal to. Using the SCL View, I've noticed that all of the "equal to" ratings are being passed through to the next category. Therefore messages that should be archived as spam are passed through as Junk Mail and some Junk Mail makes it into the inbox.
What I've done to monitor this further is to decrease the IMF from a 7 to a 6 and from a 5 to a 4. What I'll do is monitor the junk mail and inbox for legit and non-legit messages and compare their destination with the SCL View for accuracy.
As mentioned before, I do not know if the SCL rating is off by one-unit compared to the IMF or if the IMF is mis-defined. I'll watch for responses from others and post another follow-up tomorrow.
Take Care folks, ... TJ
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RE: Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 8.Jun.2006 4:27:36 PM
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tjlunsford
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leederbyshire,
The 'exchangepedia.com/blog" was informative. I'll use this as a starting point and talk to a few of the MS guys about this. It seems odd that this is not published in greater numbers in other locations.
Maybe another KB article with the ending statement, "This is a known issue" (hee... hee... hee)
This leads me into another question, which I'll inquire here and if need be post it seperately later. Can the "Safe Sender" and "Block Sender" list be viewed using OWA? I ask this because today I had an SCL of 5 make it to the "Inbox" and even though it was a legit message and I wanted it, this message in the past shows an SCL level of 0. Therefore I thought it would be great to see if I had added this sender to the safe category and it was allowed to pass through. If you know how this interrelates this is great, and would be a bonus. In the short-time, I may need to establish an Outlook account to enable to see some settings not available in OWA, but for the standard and many or our users, this would not be possible and/or very time consuming. I too could set up an Outlook profile within the home office for all OWA users, but this too would not be effecient. Any information you can shed on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again Lee and for all others who have read and wish to respond, ... TJ
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RE: Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 8.Jun.2006 4:35:01 PM
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leederbyshire
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You can see the user's Safe Senders and Blocked Senders on the OWA Options page (under the button marked 'Manage Junk E-mail Lists'). You can't see the ESM-configured Org-level lists though.
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RE: Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 9.Jun.2006 6:21:07 PM
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tjlunsford
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Leederbyshire,
Somewhere in the last 10 hours the ability to view the headers and SCL Ratings via right clicking is no longer available.
Exchange Server Actions performed during this time:
Modified the IMF settings, Restarted the SMTP Service. No change recognized.
The Event Viewer shows the system was restarted in the middle of the night. Only
change recognized is the inability to view the headers and SCL Ratings via right click.
Renamed the current "util_view.js" to "util_view.js.sclvieworiginal"
copied the "util_view.js" back in from the same folder it was uploaded to.
No change recognized.
Rebooted the Exchange Server. No change recognized.
I can share with you that this feature has been so nice to have in the last two days, now that it is unavailable, It is missed.
Let me know if there is a diagnostic and/or scenario you would like for me to proceed with and I'll do my best to accomadate.
Thanks again to those who are following this thread and to Lee for your time and reply, ... TJ
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RE: Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 9.Jun.2006 6:32:24 PM
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leederbyshire
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There has been (another) OWA update - you will need to put the .js file into the higher numbered folder. And clear your browser cache too, probably. I think that's what it is, anyway - I noticed another folder full of OWA files appeared here when I applied an update this morning.
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RE: Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 9.Jun.2006 6:57:02 PM
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tjlunsford
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leederbyshire,
I did a copy and past from the to the 6.5.7651.25 foler and then logged in to a new session of OWA and the ability to view the Header and SCL rating returned.
Any track record to how often this type of a change occurs within Exchange that would require this folder to be moved? Any chance there could be an automated process that monitors for a change in the active folder and if detected, a notice is sent to the admin to verify the ability to view the Header and SCL Rating option?
(I've not written scripts to monitor for changes in folders and would not know where to begin to even know which folder is the live working folder although as I sit here I think this would be a great opportunity for the Scripting Guy/Guru's)
Once again, the feature that this "util_View.js" is providing is great. It is working as you have described and is very simple to manage. I would like to suggest that you modify the files properties to include a few lines in the Title, Name and Comment field indicating where the file came from and what it does. I've already modified the file I downloaded to help me recognize it is your file.
I trust this information has been helpful to those reading this thread and once again, a special "Thanks" to Leederbyshire for his passion to expand on the features, ... TJ
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RE: Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 9.Jun.2006 7:33:12 PM
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leederbyshire
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If you let the updates happen automatically, you will easily be caught out by this kind of thing. I download them automatically, but apply them manually, so any time I see something that updates Exchange (especially when it mentions an OWA fix), I expect the folder to be changed. It doesn't change very often, but this is twice in a month now, so I expect that there was a problem with the last 'fix'.
I never found out where it stores the current folder name. Mind you, I've never looked very hard, either.
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RE: Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 3.Nov.2006 3:05:25 PM
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tjlunsford
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leederbyshire (and/or others),
I trust this follow-up and reply, although now 4 months old, finds you doing well.
The topic remains the ability to view the SCL and Header information when using OWA, only now we are running I.E.7.0 as the browser that is used to access OWA and the ability to view SCL's and Header information is no longer available.
I've verified the "util_view.js" is present in the following location.
C:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\exchweb\6.5.7651.43\controls
Any idea as to why this would no longer be present?
An up front "Thank You" for your time and reply. ... TJ
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RE: Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 3.Nov.2006 3:09:46 PM
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leederbyshire
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There has been an OWA update last week. If you have not manually replaced the util_view.js file with the one from my web site, then it will have reverted back to the standard version. I have had to update the file since this last update, so you may need to download a new copy.
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RE: Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 3.Nov.2006 4:10:45 PM
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tjlunsford
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leederbyshire,
I have downloaded the recent "util_view.js" and copied this into the path. Even rebooted the server and initiated a new OWA. No SCL or Header information is displayed.
I'm quite open to any suggestions or sceanrio's that you would like for me to look in to.
Once again, many thanks for your time and reply, ... TJ
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RE: Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 5.Nov.2006 11:26:41 AM
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tjlunsford
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leederbyshire,
Update: It is working again.
I am unable to describe what changed because I do not know. On Friday afternoon, after the update the Header and SCL information did not populate. Saturday morning (16 hours later), still no Header and SCL information. Saturday afternoon (24 hours later), the Header and SCL information is now available.
Many thanks for staying in-touch and providing the guidance.... TJ
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RE: Viewing Headers and SCL with OWA - 6.Nov.2006 9:33:16 AM
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leederbyshire
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I'm glad it works again. I've no explanation, unfortunately. Just one of those things, I guess.
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