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catch-all for multiple domains. an easier way? - 2.Dec.2008 4:52:41 AM   
meulie

 

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Hi all,

I need to set up catchall for the various domains we handle on our Exchange 2003 server. I have seen the Microsoft KB article, but there has to be an easier way to do this, right...? (...said the Linux postmaster...)
Besides, the way I interpret that KB is that it catches ALL email, not just the email for which no mailbox is present on the Exchange server...

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RE: catch-all for multiple domains. an easier way? - 2.Dec.2008 3:06:31 PM   
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You want a catch-all, but only for live addresses.  It sounds more like you want to enable Mailbox Store archiving (a.k.a. journaling).

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RE: catch-all for multiple domains. an easier way? - 4.Dec.2008 3:09:40 AM   
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Perhaps I was not quite clear. I want a catch-all, but it should only catch emails sent to non-existent addresses in our domains. Any emails to live addresses (active mailboxes) should be delivered normally.

We need something like this to catch emails sent to typo's like custtomerservice@[domain] and to catch emails sent to ppl who no longer work here (and whose emailboxes have been removed)

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RE: catch-all for multiple domains. an easier way? - 4.Dec.2008 11:01:53 PM   
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You're right - I misunderstood.  I think this is what you are looking for:
HOW TO: Forward Mail with Unresolved Recipients to a Single Mailbox


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RE: catch-all for multiple domains. an easier way? - 5.Dec.2008 3:54:03 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: uemurad

You're right - I misunderstood.  I think this is what you are looking for:
HOW TO: Forward Mail with Unresolved Recipients to a Single Mailbox


That looks promising! Will it work without any problems on Exchange 2003?

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RE: catch-all for multiple domains. an easier way? - 5.Dec.2008 4:56:58 AM   
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Yes, this will be applicable for E2K3 too.

When a message arrives, Exchange Server 2003 tries to find the destination address in the Active Directory database. If Exchange Server cannot find the destination address in Active Directory and Exchange Server is not the authoritative, Exchange checks the Exchange connectors and the local DNS for a match and delivers the mail when it finds a corresponding address space.
 
When Exchange Server 2003 tries to deliver a message to a local address space (an address space that exists on a recipient policy), it tries to find the destination address in the Microsoft Active Directory directory service. If Exchange cannot find the destination address in Active Directory, the following occurs:
  • If the Exchange organization is not authoritative, Exchange Server checks connectors and DNS to find another route to that address space. If Exchange finds a matching connector address space, the Message will be routed to that Connector
  • If Exchange finds no Connector, it routes the e-mail through DNS and looks for a corresponding MX record and routes the e-mail to this host.
  • If Exchange doesn’t find any match, a non-delivery report (NDR) is generated with error code 5.4.0. This error code indicates that there is a name resolution issue.
  • If the Exchange organization is authoritative for the e-mail domain, Exchange Server immediately generates an NDR with error code 5.1.1. This error code indicates that the destination address does not exist.

You can modify this behaviour if you specify another host which is responsible for further e-mail delivery and the generation of NDR (Non Delivery Reports). You can enter the IP Address or FQDN (Fully Qualified Domain Name) of the Host that you want to forward all unresolved messages to authoritative domains. When you type the FQDN or the IP address, enclose it in square brackets ([ ]).
 
Please note: An NDR is not generated if messages are forwarded to this host. The Host that you specify in the Dialog box is responsible for NDR generation.

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RE: catch-all for multiple domains. an easier way? - 5.Dec.2008 6:46:03 AM   
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I found this page (under Method 2). Saves me some work! :-)

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RE: catch-all for multiple domains. an easier way? - 8.Dec.2008 2:22:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: uemurad

You're right - I misunderstood.  I think this is what you are looking for:
HOW TO: Forward Mail with Unresolved Recipients to a Single Mailbox



I'm giving it a try, but it does not seem to work. Could it be because we have a smart host defined on our 'original' smtp server? Does that interfere with this program?

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RE: catch-all for multiple domains. an easier way? - 8.Dec.2008 5:49:48 PM   
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You really do not want to use a catch all on any server. Leave that technique where it belongs - in the 1990s.

It basically means that every address is valid on your server. That means every spam, virus infected message will come in. Instead you should use recipient filtering so that the email messages to non-existent users are dropped at the point of delivery.

I have a site that drops 10,000 messages A DAY to non-existent users. The amount of bandwidth that would be used if recipient filtering was not used.

It is also better for both the sender and the recipient company - as it means every knows the message has not been delivered, rather than disappear in to a black hole.
Simon.

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RE: catch-all for multiple domains. an easier way? - 8.Dec.2008 6:01:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sembee

You really do not want to use a catch all on any server. Leave that technique where it belongs - in the 1990s.

It basically means that every address is valid on your server. That means every spam, virus infected message will come in. Instead you should use recipient filtering so that the email messages to non-existent users are dropped at the point of delivery.

I have a site that drops 10,000 messages A DAY to non-existent users. The amount of bandwidth that would be used if recipient filtering was not used.

It is also better for both the sender and the recipient company - as it means every knows the message has not been delivered, rather than disappear in to a black hole.
Simon.


I totally agree, but the CEO here has the final word on this issue, and his mind seems made up.

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RE: catch-all for multiple domains. an easier way? - 8.Dec.2008 6:11:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: meulie

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sembee

You really do not want to use a catch all on any server. Leave that technique where it belongs - in the 1990s.

It basically means that every address is valid on your server. That means every spam, virus infected message will come in. Instead you should use recipient filtering so that the email messages to non-existent users are dropped at the point of delivery.

I have a site that drops 10,000 messages A DAY to non-existent users. The amount of bandwidth that would be used if recipient filtering was not used.

It is also better for both the sender and the recipient company - as it means every knows the message has not been delivered, rather than disappear in to a black hole.
Simon.


I totally agree, but the CEO here has the final word on this issue, and his mind seems made up.


Ensure that he has been warned of the consequences in writing. When your server fails because it has been spammed (it is a matter of WHEN, not IF) you can then produce that to cover your back and effectively say (in a diplomatic way) "Told you so".

As for having made up their mind, that simply means that someone hasn't explained the consequences. I have dealt with CEOs at a very high level and it is simply a matter of getting things across to them.

Simon

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